{"id":941,"date":"2020-08-23T08:41:57","date_gmt":"2020-08-23T08:41:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/?p=941"},"modified":"2020-08-23T12:59:56","modified_gmt":"2020-08-23T12:59:56","slug":"do-not-touch-the-charred-crotch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/2020\/08\/23\/do-not-touch-the-charred-crotch\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Do not touch the charred crotch&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One day, I will learn not to post a glib tweet about a TV show right before bed. But that day will not be anytime soon as we all know that I like the attention&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">When it comes to forensic science on TV shows, I\u2019m usually pretty zen*. Like a leaf in the wind. I know that some artistic licence is needed because this is entertainment, and much forensic analysis is visually rather boring. And slow. I\u2019ve even advised TV shows myself so that they can skirt that fine line between factual science and pacy drama. I\u2019m also aware of the significant debate that the forensic science on TV shows has caused, specifically around the so-called <em>CSI Effect<\/em>. But this is contentious, with Simon Cole noting in the journal Public Understanding of Science that <a href=\"https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1177\/0963662513481294\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the very term is ill-defined and inconsistently used<\/a> and David Errickson and colleagues arguing in the Journal of Forensic &amp; Legal Medicine that &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S1752928X19300435\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>if<\/em> the CSI effect does exist, the effect is confined only to public perception, bearing no influence to working forensic practitioners<\/a>&#8220;.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right\"><span style=\"font-size: 8pt\">(*this is blatantly not true)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The only time I\u2019m really triggered** is when it comes to burned bodies and bone. Because that\u2019s my bag, and if I don\u2019t point out the issues then, well what has been the point of spending 20 years studying it. Exactly. No-one wants to contemplate the pointlessness of their life\u2019s work.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right\"><span style=\"font-size: 8pt\">(**this is blatantly not true)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Which brings me on to last week. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/tv-and-radio\/2020\/aug\/05\/britons-tv-covid-lockdown-ofcom-streaming-netflix-amazon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Like most people, we\u2019ve been spending vast amounts of time on Netflix and Amazon Prime whiling away the lockdown<\/a>. Inevitably we stumbled upon <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt4052886\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Lucifer<\/a>, a show based on the work of the excellent <a href=\"https:\/\/www.neilgaiman.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Neil Gaiman<\/a> which sees the devil come to earth and help out a detective in her investigations. It\u2019s a weird premise for what is essentially a procedural cop show, but a show about the lord of eternal punishment and damnation seemed appropriate for someone working in HE. Anyway, it\u2019s kind of mindless fun which is what one needs at this time.<\/p>\n<p>The episode in question (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt5668566\/?ref_=ttep_ep3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">s2 ep3 Sin-Eater<\/a>) featured a guy tied to a stake and burned alive as punishment for posting an embarrassing video of someone online. The forensic person (because in these shows there\u2019s only one and they do all of the forensic disciplines&#8230;) then examined the body and noted that the burn pattern indicated that the fire started in the crotch region. But it did not. It did not. And when I <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/tjuthompson\/status\/1296919803777753089\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">said this out loud on Twitter<\/a>, I rightly got asked for more detail. So this post is your fault, really***.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right\"><span style=\"font-size: 8pt\">(***this is blatantly not true)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>For those of you who don\u2019t know, and the only reason for this would be that you haven\u2019t read my work and so shame on you, the body undergoes a number of heat-induced changes when exposed to fire. The soft tissues (skin and organs) dehydrate, contract and then split. Once the skin is ruptured the internal organs are exposed and then the skeleton and so the changes speed up. The blood will breakdown and change colour. The skeleton also changes, first in terms of colour and then through fracturing and changes to the crystal structure. The situation is further complicated by the interactions of all of these variables. For example, work led by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/sarah-ellingham-8602a067\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dr Sarah Ellingham<\/a> and published in the Journal of Forensic Sciences showed that in <a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1111\/1556-4029.12855\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">low temperature events the soft tissues act as a buffer to slow down heat-induced change, but in higher temp events it acts as a fuel and speeds up such changes<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>There is much to unpick from this short scene so I\u2019ve popped a few screen grabs of the episode right here for you:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_954\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-954\" style=\"width: 810px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/files\/2020\/08\/Lucifier_body.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-954\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/files\/2020\/08\/Lucifier_body-1024x770.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"810\" height=\"609\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/files\/2020\/08\/Lucifier_body-1024x770.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/files\/2020\/08\/Lucifier_body-300x226.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/files\/2020\/08\/Lucifier_body-768x577.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/files\/2020\/08\/Lucifier_body.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 810px) 100vw, 810px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-954\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Screen grabs from the episode in question&#8230;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>So what are our initial thoughts? Well, the things that whizzed through my mind were:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>There\u2019s actually very little damage to the skin considering the temperature that pyres can reach (easily several hundred degrees Celsius &#8211; I don\u2019t know how that converts to Fahrenheit because, well why would you want to use Fahrenheit?) and the use of an accelerant in this case. We would expect much more contraction and splitting. You can see what I mean in the <a href=\"http:\/\/web.a.ebscohost.com.ezproxy.tees.ac.uk\/ehost\/pdfviewer\/pdfviewer?vid=1&amp;sid=05fb71c7-da14-4c89-80d9-109c3d82b08f%40sdc-v-sessmgr03\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">paper looking at the use of CT scanning in fire deaths published in European Radiology by Henri de Bakker and team<\/a>. But note that the images are graphic.<\/li>\n<li>From the body, we can see that there isn\u2019t actually a concentration of heat on the groin (something my wife has pointed out to me too). Plus, the video of the death literally showed the heat starting at the feet and moving up. Only Quentin Tarantino would argue that feet equate to the groin.<\/li>\n<li>Notice how the whole body was the same charred colour. The burn patterns noted by the forensic scientist are a real phenomenon and work on the principle that more heat-induced changes occur closer to the heat source. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/B9780123725103500046\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Steven Symes has produced the classic charts we use for this<\/a>, but our own recent work (currently in peer review) has demonstrated that this can also be detected in subtle changes in bone crystal size. Interestingly, we can use deviations from the classic charts to suggest when the body may have been moved or been placed in an unusual position. Petr Hejna and team <a href=\"https:\/\/link.springer.com\/article\/10.1007\/s12024-018-0076-6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">give an interesting example of this in the journal of Forensic Science, Medicine and Pathology in 2019<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>The body has remained in remarkably good condition &#8211; no hands or feet were lost. Thank goodness they didn\u2019t need to spend hours of the show reconstructing the body! <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S2665910720300633?via%3Dihub\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Recent work by Amber Collings and Katherine Brown in Forensic Science International: Reports have shown how challenging this can be<\/a>. Also, how was the body charred underneath clothing which didn\u2019t burn away? What kind of protection are those garments giving &#8211; none! There\u2019s no SPF rating there&#8230;<\/li>\n<li>The glasses remained in place &#8211; which is incredible considering ears are lost early in a burning event due to their exposed position and thin composition. It\u2019s not unusual for metal to survive on the body, and indeed such things as metal surgical implants can be very useful in the identification process, as <a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1111\/1556-4029.13442\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a case by Vanessa Moreira Andrade from the Afr\u00e2nio Peixoto Legal Medicine Institute in Rio de Janeiro showed<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Oh, and although they didn\u2019t do the necessary lab testing, the forensic scientist is correct in stating that accelerants and the like can be detected and recovered from burn scenes (and bodies). Back in 2017, John DeHaan and colleagues published some research in the journal Science &amp; Justice and noted that &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www-sciencedirect-com.ezproxy.tees.ac.uk\/science\/article\/pii\/S1355030616301319\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Debris processed by normal fire debris methods can now reveal the presence of a characteristic group of\u00a0volatile compounds\u00a0that can help discriminate accelerants such as\u00a0kerosene or gasoline from the volatiles normally associated with burned human or animal remains<\/a>&#8220;.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>I don\u2019t know about you, but I feel better for getting all of this off my chest. And here we have another example of something I\u2019ve spoken about before, which is using TV shows and movies in our teaching to help illustrate points and kick-start discussions. Anyway, if you take nothing else away from this, remember this forensic science 101 lesson:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/files\/2020\/08\/Lucifer.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-952\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/files\/2020\/08\/Lucifer.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"440\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/files\/2020\/08\/Lucifer.jpg 440w, https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/files\/2020\/08\/Lucifer-300x164.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 440px) 100vw, 440px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One day, I will learn not to post a glib tweet about a TV show right before bed. But that day will not be anytime soon as we all know that I like the attention&#8230; When it comes to forensic science on TV shows, I\u2019m usually pretty zen*. Like a leaf in the wind. I know that some artistic licence is needed because this is entertainment, and much forensic analysis is visually rather boring. And slow. I\u2019ve even advised TV shows myself so that they&#8230;<span class=\"clearfix clearfix-post\"><\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/2020\/08\/23\/do-not-touch-the-charred-crotch\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue Reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">&#8220;&#8220;Do not touch the charred crotch&#8221;&#8221;<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":144,"featured_media":946,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"footnotes":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[4],"tags":[8,47,16,53,39],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/files\/2020\/08\/marc-renken-FRtQmemqOZs-unsplash.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5ogem-fb","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/941"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/144"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=941"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/941\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":956,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/941\/revisions\/956"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/946"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=941"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=941"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.tees.ac.uk\/tjuthompson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=941"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}